what we need is, number one, we cannot always say that it is up to china. china has leverage over them. they don't dictate. what we need is a new approach. in the new six-party talk countries, involving russia, china, south korea, the united states, japan, and i don't know exactly what that is. but it is a combination of toughening the policy with some kind of rewards if there is movement, a positive movement. we have never really tested this guy. we know very little about him. so, i'm not saying the answer is to isolate him completely. that doesn't seem to be working. some kind of engagement, i don't know exactly what. i'm not in the government. i'm a private citizen but i think our approach to north korea ranging from engagement, to sanctions, has not worked. so what we need to do is find a way to deal with him that tests this new guy. we should not just say forget about him and isolate him because he has had nuclear weapons and we have had 60,000 troops there and he has missiles. his people are starving. at the least we need to find ways in a humanitaria